Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Despite these challenges, we're encouraged by the sustained interest and traffic in the community, affirming the ongoing appeal of our homes to prospective buyers
But they gave us a two-year extension, which we were very grateful for and thought we deserved
And a good job in a difficult environment
Our efforts today are ensuring we are well positioned for that long game, while recognizing the importance of focusing on creating and maintaining shareholder value
In closing, while there is uncertainty in this market, we have positive momentum and remain optimistic about our future
As we move forward with monetizing our Valencia land holdings, we feel they are ideally positioned for expanding on our strategy of capital management both by tying our capital expenditures to near-term revenue events and by structuring land sales with our home building partners to shift certain land improvement costs to the builders, which helps reduce our capital spending
With our growing profitability and cash position, we are focused on repositioning and extending this debt, and we are confident that we will be able to provide for the long-term capital needs of the company as we manage the upcoming maturity of our notes
Each new phase release has seen gradual increases in price, reflecting strong demand for our Valencia community
Kim brings a great deal of valuable background and experience to this position and is well suited to help us navigate the current economic environment and execute on our business priorities
Our newest neighborhood is opened with two detached calendar products and has experienced strong interest, averaging a sales pace of 0.8 homes per week
And so at this point, we're feeling very good about that based on various transactions that are in escrow or very close to being finalized
There remains strong home builder interest in acquiring home sites at great part due to the continuing home sales pace
With the state's legislation benefiting the public financing program, we believe that we are building momentum to move forward with the standalone development of Candlesticks as it first saves this larger mixed-use community located on irreplaceable land along the San Francisco Bay
And we are seeing good demand for that move-up buyer in Valencia
Home builders have also assisted in stabilizing demand by offering mortgage products with reduced interest rates that have allowed new home sales to continue even as the resale market slows
Before we get into the quarterly update, I'd like to mention some positive news on recent management changes
They have shown their commitment to Five Point and our ability to deliver housing in California's supply constrained market
And in particular, toll had a project up there that's selling right now and selling very well
These offerings will augment our current lineup and result in increased sales
We are all very appreciative of the great job Leo Kij did as an Interim CFO, and I personally very much appreciated his assistance as we focused our attention on right-sizing our SG&A to position us to achieve our long-term goals
Great job in getting that done
Reflecting our considerable progress in cash and revenue generation, I'm pleased to report on the extension of our revolving credit facility with our bank group, which extends its maturity until April 2026
Additionally, as you may recall from my comments last quarter, as a consequence of increased interest rates, resale home inventory remains very low, helping to support the new home market
And my -- it seems like you're doing pretty well in a very tough environment
We expect this user interest will continue to support demand in this preferred asset class, notwithstanding adjustments in the capital markets
On the commercial land side of our business, we are seeing interest in our unique and limited commercial land offerings
So, again, we're still optimistic about ‘24, and we haven't given any guidance on that, but the challenge we've been given and that we've been trying to address is more regular positive cash and earnings each quarter, which is, you know, something we're trying to maintain, but can't promise every quarter
TIF captures the incremental growth in tax revenues, in our case property taxes, above and beyond what taxing entities currently receive within a designated geographic area
And very glad that the four banks stayed all together
Our location in the Heart of Orange County has supported continued interest in our commercial land
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Overall affordability continues to be a challenge in California as housing continues to be in short supply
And the thing we're facing in California is just a terrible shortage of housing
The macroeconomic environment for most of this year has been constructive to home building, but there are challenges that we and our guest builders are facing
And as we've been saying, something may slip from the fourth quarter into the first quarter, because all of the municipal approvals didn't get received in a timely fashion
While there has been a reduction in speculative building in relevant Southern California markets that have slowed the pace of offers and pricing being offered for our land
The supply constraint has allowed home builders in our communities to continue to sell homes at consistent price levels, albeit at a slightly reduced pace, due to the combination of elevated interest rates and limited builder inventory in our communities
We lost what's known as a term out
Equity and earnings from our unconsolidated entities for the quarter was a loss of $600,000
Notwithstanding these headwinds, we still see demand for new homes as home buyers are dealing with the reality of higher interest rates
It does take some actions by the city, which means it could slip a little bit
Finally, I would be remiss if I did not note the emerging geopolitical risks that could impact the economy and our industry, which we will continue to monitor
And then, can you also talk a little bit about, I think in your prepared comments, you had mentioned the headwinds created by the interest rate environment
Selling, general and administrative expenses were $11.9 million, which is slightly lower than our projected average quarterly range of $12 million to $13 million
And with interest rates, the resale market is very limited
It is unusual for CFD reimbursements to exceed our capital expenditures and you shouldn't expect that going forward on a reoccurring quarterly basis
Sales pace during the quarter was impacted by a combination of factors, including limited releases and product offerings, rising home prices, and climbing interest rates
While capital markets have slowed for speculative commercial development in our communities, we're still seeing interest from the user market as users have limited options if they want to own and control their own facilities on a long-term basis
So affordability will always be an issue, so I don't want to make light of that
And so the banks came back and said they didn't see how they could continue that in the current market
   

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