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| It's a market where the requirements are not that challenging from a speed or density perspective, which is really where we derive competitive advantage and why we're strong in DRAM |
| The positive impact of this trend, together with the potential for increased compute power and PCs and handsets to support AI at the edge will drive significant growth in the foundry and logic probe card market |
| These are trends where FormFactor is well positioned as an industry and technology leader, and we're confident that our investments in R&D and capacity position FormFactor to emerge from the current cyclical downturn a stronger and leaner competitor, enabling us to achieve our target model that delivers $2 of non-GAAP earnings per share on $850 million of revenue |
| The -- if you were to have that scenario, I do think there is a very good likelihood that we can outgrow the unit growth of the market, especially if the bulk of it is associated with advanced nodes and some of the high-volume markets like PCs and mobile |
| If you look at our historical acquisitions, the MicroProbe acquisition in 2012, the Cascade Microtech acquisition back in 2016, we've been pretty good in creating value through our M&A activity and have been a good steward of capital |
| It also enables us to invest in capacity and other strategic initiatives designed to produce market share gains and above industry revenue and profit growth when the industry returns to growth, which will enable FormFactor to achieve and then surpass the levels of our current target financial model |
| Because of the strength and stability of our balanced product portfolio, we can make these investments while maximizing quarterly profitability and protecting our strong balance sheet throughout prolonged periods of industry softness |
| DRAM probe cards are an area of current strength, and we expect first quarter DRAM revenue to approach the peak levels experienced in 2021 |
| What I would say to close that topic is, when I compare things to a year ago and people were optimistic about a second half recovery in 2023, I feel like the industry is in much better shape from an inventory and production and capacity standpoint a year later here in the first part of 2024 |
| First, and perhaps surprisingly, we're experiencing strong demand generated by new DDR5 DRAM designs as customers prepare for high-volume production when the eventual DRAM upturn arrives |
| Longer term, we remain excited and confident in the growth prospects for FormFactor in the industry overall, driven by the fundamental trends of semiconductor content growth and exciting innovations like HBM, chiplets and co-packaged silicon photonics |
| And I think we're making some pretty good progress with that |
| The second factor behind our strong DRAM outlook is the continuing acceleration in demand from multiple customers for probe cards to test high bandwidth memory or HBM |
| In closing, we continue to operate efficiently and prudently in what we see as a relatively stable demand environment across our diversified product and technology portfolio |
| This unique portfolio enables us to compete for business across diverse demand pools at all major customers, producing relatively consistent top line results as we've demonstrated for the past four quarters and which we expect again in the current quarter |
| As production volumes increased over the next several years, our product road map delivers both systems and consumable probe cards to test these electro optical devices and improve yields, enabling our customers to seamlessly transition from the lab to the fab |
| Customers accomplished the yield learning using products like ours, reducing the overall test intensity, improving their yields |
| On the Foundry & Logic observation, if you recall back on our previous call, we had a very strong third quarter with some of our major Foundry & Logic customers |
| FormFactor's MEMS-based SmartMatrix probe card architecture meets these advanced requirements, providing significant value to our customers and differentiation for FormFactor |
| We believe our superior performance capabilities will drive both market share and profitability gains as HBM continues to grow, driven by the accelerating adoption of generative AI |
| It also increases our competitive differentiation on things like speed - high-speed performance and thermal scaling |
| Co-package optics enabled by silicon photonics remains an important and exciting driver for FormFactor's current systems and future probe card businesses |
| The Systems business continues to be driven by strong demand for our market-leading test and measurement products for early development of applications like co-packaged silicon photonics and quantum computing |
| But I think we're pretty confident in increased test intensity as all the different yield reduction modes associated with die stacking or work through in HBM and in the logic space as well |
| Together with the headline grabbing GPUs, HBM is a key enabler for generative AI, and we are forecasting nearly 50% sequential growth in our HBM probe card business in the first quarter |
| We're seeing DDR5 for both mobile and server PC applications be pretty strong in the first quarter |
| The relatively stable aggregate demand across our combined served markets is a benefit of FormFactor's diversification strategy and sets us apart from our direct competitors |
| And then you can see in Q1, we've made some good steps towards that |
| On a non-GAAP basis, gross margin for the fourth quarter was 42.1%, 0.3 percentage points higher than the 41.8% non-GAAP gross margin in Q3 and 1.1 percentage points above the midpoint of our outlook range |
| And in particular, in the foundry space, delivered high volumes of two high-performance - pro cards for high-performance compute projects |
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| As anticipated, we experienced a sequential reduction in Systems segment revenue in the fourth quarter, mainly due to the sale of our FRT metrology business |
| At the midpoint of our outlook range, Q1 revenues is expected to be approximately $3 million lower than in Q4 |
| Our Q4 systems segment gross margin was 49.6%, 220 basis points lower than the 51.8% gross margin in the third quarter |
| Within the probe card segment, Q4 foundry and logic revenues were $83.6 million, a 13.3% decrease from the third quarter revenues |
| Shifting to foundry and logic probe cards, our largest business, we experienced the expected sequential reduction in the fourth quarter as key customers digested the significant third quarter shipments of probe cards for a major tile-based client PC design and two major high-performance compute designs in the foundry space |
| Systems segment revenues were $41.2 million in Q4, a $2 million decrease from third quarter record revenues and essentially flat year-over-year |
| This transaction is designed to adjust our operational strategy in the region in light of export controls that have caused our China revenues to decline over the past several quarters |
| Probe card segment revenues were $126.8 million in the fourth quarter, a decrease of $1.5 million or 1.3% from the third quarter revenues and a year-over-year increase of 1.9% |
| Fourth quarter revenues were $168.2 million, a 2% sequential decrease from our third quarter revenues and a year-over-year increase of 1.3% from our Q4 2022 revenues |
| The expected decrease relates to lower systems segment revenues, mainly due to the sale of FRT in Q4 |
| I noticed the Foundry & Logic revenue was down, it's similar decline that we saw in the revenue out of the geographic region of Taiwan |
| So we're going to have less favorable mix between systems and probes, and that's another driver that pushes gross margin a little lower than Q4 |
| Foundry and Logic revenues decreased to 49.8% of total company revenues compared to 56.2% in the third quarter |
| HBM, not so surprisingly, but DDR5 being, as I said in the prepared remarks, a bit surprising given where we are in the DRAM cycle |
| Systems segment revenues comprised 24.5% of total company revenues, slightly down from 25.2% in the third quarter |
| The expected decrease at the midpoint of this range as compared to Q4 '23 gross margin is a result of a less favorable product mix, mainly the expected decrease in Systems segment revenues and the increase in DRAM revenues |
| So why is gross margin still lower? Shouldn't gross margin be better than December then? Shai Shahar Well, let's not forget the system segment, right? We did - I did talk about the call that Systems segment is expected to go down in Q4 |
| But I think in an environment where we still expect consolidation in the space, we don't think holding on to some cash, especially with decent returns is a bad strategic move |
| Having said that, I think the general view, when we talk to customers and other suppliers is that flash is probably going to trail DRAM in terms of recovery, that inventories are still high and pricing is not where it should be to drive an upturn |
| The decrease from Q3 was driven by lower foundry and logic revenues, partially offset by an increase in DRAM and flash revenues |
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