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| We expect to add functionality and content to inHere to further enhance the transaction experience of agents, transaction coordinators, and consumers, which in turn will create market growth and efficiency opportunities for FNF over the near and long term |
| A 17% increase over the full-year 2022, driven by record retail sales and robust institutional market sales |
| Given the strong execution of our recovery plan, we were able to resume normal operations quickly in the quarter |
| If we get, if we get better rates, as we go through the year and particularly in the second half, I think there's some upside to margins there |
| We remain well-positioned to navigate the market cycle and are continuing to build and expand our Title business for the long term |
| F&G is profitably growing its assets under management before flow and reinsurance to a record $56.3 billion at December and comprise nearly 30% of FNF's adjusted net earnings for the full-year 2023 |
| Our Title business has continued to perform well in 2023 |
| We are pleased to see investor recognition of F&G's success as its market capitalization has increased from $2.4 billion at the time of the partial spin-off in December of 2022 to approximately $5.8 billion at the end of 2023 |
| Encouraged by the increase in, you know, resale open orders in January, up 7% over last year and the sequential improvement, I think, lines up well for, for maybe a modestly better purchase environment, as we go through, through '24 |
| But it was really the, the Board looking at the performance of F&G, since really the date of acquisition back in June of 2020, the strong leadership, the performance, the growth in assets and thought, you know, we could -- we have an opportunity here to continue to grow the asset base and retain those assets or we have reinsurance partners, where we could, you know, utilize that and, and not keep as much of those assets |
| During 2023, we saw continued strength in multifamily, industrial and other segments like energy and affordable housing, similar to recent years |
| Now that we've extended that revolver to, to 2029, I think we're in a really good shape from a debt standpoint |
| Thereby enhancing our liquidity profile and financial flexibility |
| We feel that we are well-positioned for the current market and poised to benefit from a potential turn in the housing market, should mortgage rates drop in 2024? Beyond the near-term pressures, we remain bullish on the mid to long-term fundamentals of the real estate market |
| AUM before flow reinsurance was $56.3 billion, adjusting for the approximately $7 billion of cumulative new business ceded and well ahead of our expectations at the time of acquisition |
| And then, Tony, like when I'm looking at the residential fee per file, it was up mid-teens this quarter, so much stronger than where HPA is today |
| Adoption of the platform has been strong, shown by the following highlights for 2023, over 1 million agents, transaction coordinators, and consumers used inHere to manage their transactions, up more than 50% over the prior year |
| Our Title Company has automatically published over 400,000 orders to win here, providing our customers with enhanced efficiency and transparency into their transactions |
| inHere's performance throughout 2023 demonstrates its growing relevance and utility in the real estate sector |
| And I think that's probably an underappreciated part of the FNF stock, is the positive impact, probably the Title when rates come down and we, we wouldn't expect a significant drop-off on the F&G side |
| Likewise, F&G's opportunities are compelling with many prospects ahead to drive asset growth, deliver margin expansion, and generate accretive returns |
| We delivered adjusted pre-tax earnings in our Title Segment of $964 million and achieved an industry-leading adjusted pre-tax Title margin of 13.7% for the full-year |
| We are proud of our very strong performance in 2023 |
| We were also pleased to see the most recent rating agency recognition of F&G's success as AM Best upgraded the financial strength ratings of F&G's primary operating companies to A from A- in January 2024, recognizing the financial strength and stability of F&G's business as they successfully execute on their diversified growth strategy |
| F&G has profitably grown its retained assets under management to a record $49.5 billion at December 31 |
| But we're pretty proud of our ability to deliver pretty consistent earnings |
| For the full-year 2023, we saw a strong performance for the Title Segment, despite a difficult environment as well as record growth for the F&G Segment, which together generated solid profitability |
| And the higher percentage of flow reinsurance, which provides a lower capital requirement on ceded new business, while allocating capital to the highest returning retained business enhances cash flow, provides fee-based earnings, and is accretive to F&G's returns |
| F&G has successfully expanded from one to three high-quality and established flow reinsurance partners, which provides counterparty diversification benefit and more capacity |
| The growth has been tremendous, doubling assets in three years and the expansion in, in channels to, to sell has been incredible, and we want to take advantage of that |
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| Total revenue excluding gains and losses was $11.9 billion in the full-year 2023, and reflects a 9% decrease from the full-year 2022, primarily due to the decline in Title order volumes |
| mortgage rates, which peaked at over 8% in October, combined with limited housing supply |
| And, and the numbers are actually suppressed given the lower market |
| This generated $962 million in adjusted net earnings, a decrease of 35% from $1.5 billion in full-year 2022 |
| This includes alternative investment returns below our long-term expectations by $130 million or $0.48 per share and significant expense items of $43 million or $0.16 per share |
| This includes alternative investment returns below our long-term expectations by $31 million or $0.11 per share and significant expense items of $16 million or $0.06 per share |
| As far as the minor negative impact to our fourth quarter Title Segment results, we estimate the incident reduced adjusted pre-tax title earnings by $8 million to $10 million and lowered our adjusted pre-tax title margin by roughly 50 basis points and 12.3%, which would have been in line with the prior year quarter to 11.8% as reported |
| And refinance orders opened per day were down 11% from the fourth quarter of 2022, down 1% for the month of January versus the prior year, and up 15% for the month of January versus December |
| While we are pleased with our strong performance and profitability, we remain cautious as we have entered the first quarter of 2024 with historic low order volumes, which are expected to pressure industry margins much like last year |
| So first, on the November orders obviously affected, December jumped pretty sharply |
| Direct premiums decreased by 10% versus the fourth quarter of 2022 |
| Agency premiums decreased by 13%, and escrow title-related and other fees decreased by 4% versus the prior year |
| But I would agree with you, our, our November open orders were off about 10% expectation, and, and that kind of lines up with, you know, the couple of days, where we were really restricted from taking orders |
| I would say, you know, cautious to margins, particularly in the first quarter, probably looks a lot like last year, given the inventory volumes in the fourth quarter are lower, you know, we do have maybe, you know, a little bit of a lower expense base that helps, but, but pretty cautious to the first quarter and a, and a bit more optimistic, as we, as we move through the year |
| Our total commercial orders opened were 704 per day, down 3% from the fourth quarter of 2022, flat for the month of January versus the prior year, and up 3% for the month of January versus December |
| The F&G Segment had a net loss of $251 million and the Corporate Segment had a net loss of $46 million |
| And then I think things slowed down a bit and then picked up maybe in the latter part of the year |
| But that does not imply that we would even necessarily see a decline in earnings |
| The F&G Segment contributed $285 million, and the Corporate Segment had an adjusted net loss of $83 million |
| I mean, I guess, from your point of view, is there any concern around, you know, if we do enter sort of a lower rate environment, how that potentially affects F&G's performance, right, in that scenario, and it is growing as a part of your business? Or is the view that, hey, look, rates go down, okay, maybe F&G earnings do sort of decline a little bit, but they will get it back on the title side? Just wanted to get your thoughts there |
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