Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Financial Marketing Services, our B2B offline business was up 7% and much better than our expectations
EWF delivered strong 10% organic non-mortgage revenue growth, which allowed them to deliver flat total growth despite mortgage revenue that was down 23%
But look, we've said consistently, we expect to see nice margin improvements as we move through this year
Equifax performed extremely well last year against our EFX 2025 strategic priorities
As Mark referenced earlier, the growth is within our long-term framework and is broad-based across all three BUs and again, the strongest performance in Workforce Solutions
The margin expansion delivers about 6 points of adjusted EPS growth
Mortgage revenue outperformance relative to the mortgage market at about 24 points is expected to benefit 2024 total revenue growth by about 4.5%, more than offsetting the almost 3 percentage points of negative revenue impact from the mortgage market decline
Importantly, we had sequential improvement during the year with 8% total growth and 9% non-mortgage growth in the fourth quarter
We also delivered over 100 new products with a vitality of 14%, which was a record for Equifax and well above our 10% long-term goal
Over that timeframe, we expect our margins to continue to expand, which will grow our free cash flow
They delivered sequential non-mortgage revenue growth and exited fourth quarter with strong 17% non-mortgage growth
Consistent with that framework, we will generate about 50 basis points of margin expansion from high variable margins on our revenue growth
Our 2024 guidance builds on our strong 2023 non-mortgage growth from new products, record growth and pricing
We added 17 new twin partnerships last year, our highest number ever and have a strong pipeline for 2024
EWS also delivered over 20% new product vitality
In 2024, cost savings we will generate from decommissioning of North American infrastructure in the second half of '23 will exceed the redundant system and migration costs we are incurring, generating about 30 basis points of margin benefit
The USIS Commercial and Consumer Solutions business had very strong years with double-digit revenue growth led by strong market penetration and new products
International delivered 12% constant dollar revenue growth and 6% organic constant dollar growth, led by continued very strong 17% organic growth in Latin America with a vitality index over 15% and close to 10% revenue growth in our UK CRA
As we look beyond 2024, the cost benefits of completing our cloud migration as well as accelerating high variable profit revenue growth are expected to drive significant improvement in EBITDA margins
We are convinced that our new EFX cloud single data fabric and AI capabilities are delivering new differentiated products faster with better performance and will provide a competitive advantage to Equifax for years to come
The strong progress we made in 2023 will enable the substantial completion of our North American transformation and customer migrations in the first half of 2024, including decommissioning of the mainframes and major North American data centers
In USIS, obviously, the outperformance is extremely strong in the first quarter, right, on the order of 50 points relative to what we're seeing the market at
In 2023, we executed very well against our EFX Cloud and broader operational restructuring plan across Equifax, reflecting cost reductions from the closure of major North American data centers and other broader spending controls in excess of our original $210 million goal
But the positive from our eyes is that it feels like the market has bottomed and with the Fed's managing inflation and indicating rate cuts in the future, that's going to be a good guide for Equifax and a tailwind going forward
That's good news for our mortgage business in the future, which is why we tried to frame that $1 billion of potential revenue in the future as mortgage volumes return to more normal levels, and we expect them to return to normal levels
These actions are improving operating margins and lowering the capital intensity of our business
As we move into 2024, I'm energized by our commercial momentum, NPI capabilities and the benefits of the new Equifax Cloud
Turning to Slide 4, our strong fourth quarter gives us momentum as we move into the new year
When it happens, we'll share it with you, and I think that's going to be a real positive for Equifax going forward
EWS EBITDA margins in 2024 at 52% are expected to be up from the 51% delivered in 2023, given strong non-mortgage revenue growth from new products, record growth, penetration and pricing, partially offset by the normalization of incentive comp
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
In Asia Pacific, revenue was below our expectations with revenue down 2% and to -- due to lower market volumes in Consumer and Commercial, particularly late in November and December
USIS delivered non-mortgage revenue growth of about just over 3% in the quarter and slightly below our 4% growth expectation
B2B non-mortgage online revenue growth was down slightly less than 1% and below our expectations
Employer Services revenue was down 7% and in line with our expectations, driven by declines in ERC revenue, which is now about $5 million per quarter as the U.S
mortgage credit and twin inquiries is negatively impacting 2024 total revenue growth by almost 3%
EBITDA margins are expected to be about 50.5%, about flat year-to-year and down a little over 50 basis points sequentially, principally due to negative seasonal mix from higher employer services revenue in 1Q
This is impacting 1Q '24 margins in addition to the seasonal decline in non-mortgage revenue and normalization of incentive compensation we referenced earlier
The P&L line items below operating income, principally interest and other expense and tax expense, are expected to negatively impact adjusted EPS by about 4 percentage points
For perspective, our 2024 framework is over 30 points lower than the average current forecast from MBA, which is currently forecasting 24 origination units, up 17% versus our down 15%
Employer revenue will be down about 4% in the quarter due to the decline in ERC revenue that was referenced earlier
mortgage market is on the order of 50% below its historic average inquiry levels
We expect Asia Pacific to have declining revenue in the first half of 2024 due to the softer market conditions and the near-term impact of long-term contract extensions we signed with several large customers
And we expect to see weaker revenue growth in D2C and telco
ERC revenue is expected to stay at about these levels through 2024, and we'll see headwinds in our employer vertical from this ERC decline through the third quarter of 2024
1Q ‘24 is expected to see USIS mortgage credit inquiries down over 26% year-to-year with EWS twin inquiries at similar levels
The declines were principally due to weakness in D2C, our business where we sell data to other credit bureaus and insurance
EBITDA margins are expected to be about 32%, flat versus the first quarter of '23 and down about 300 basis points sequentially
mortgage inquiries across USIS and EWS would be down on a blended basis by 15%
These markets are off to a slow start again in January, and we would expect to see slower revenue growth in the first quarter in talent than we delivered in the fourth quarter
MBA and Fannie Mae forecast mortgage rates move down to 6.1% and 5.8%, respectively, from 6.8% today
   

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