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| On Slide 5, you can see that our overall net interest margin expanded to 2.19% from 1.34% quarter-over-quarter, which drove the increase in ADE |
| We have a great team here and a great track record |
| EARN's small size and liquid portfolio has been an advantage year as we've been able to ramp up quickly in a terrific strategy where we see a big opportunity for EARN |
| Improvements in the leveraged loan market drove strength in junior CLO tranches given that they are more levered to credit performance than senior tranches are |
| This, of course, follows a strong fourth quarter for Agency MBS, which led to the positive 7.7% non-annualized economic return that we generated last quarter |
| Our CLO portfolio has continued to contribute nicely to our results so far in 2024 |
| Going forward, Ellington's extensive expertise and track record in the CLO market should be a big benefit for EARN |
| The CLO market suits EARN extremely well |
| In the fourth quarter, we again relied on EARN's risk management and strong liquidity position to accomplish this |
| The CLO market has proven its ability to generate attractive returns over market cycles and over a long-term horizon |
| Besides contributing to and diversifying EARN's GAAP results, our high-yielding CLO investments have also helped drive the substantial growth of our net interest margin and thereby have supported our ADE as well |
| While Ellington has long-standing and deep experience managing CLO portfolios, EARN began investing in that product just this past September and that pivot is already contributing nicely to earnings |
| During the quarter, positive net interest income and net gains on our Agency MBS significantly exceeded net losses on our hedges, driving strong performance from our agency portfolio |
| Our CLO portfolio also generated strong returns, driven by net interest income and net gains as did our non-Agency RMBS and interest-only portfolios |
| This is benefiting both seasoned CLO mezz to faster deal paydowns and CLO equity to lower near-term default risk as underlying corporate borrowers raise incremental liquidity |
| But I'd say sort of the way we manage the cash is something that we've been doing for a long time, and I think it served us very well, certainly served us extremely well in stresses like during COVID |
| Q3 earnings were better than expected for many high-yield borrowers with JPMorgan estimating that 86% of high-yield companies generated Q3 earnings that were either neutral or positive for their credit profiles |
| I'm excited about our growing corporate CLO portfolio |
| We also expect the technical backdrop for the leveraged loan market to remain attractive as many new CLOs are expected to ramp up portfolios in Q1, driving demand for loans with a forward calendar of loan supply that remains light |
| I'm happy to report that EARN is well-positioned to capture this Agency outperformance, posting a total economic return of almost 8% for the quarter |
| Fourth, flows into mutual funds that buy Agency MBS, both active and passive, have been quite strong as have fixed income annuity sales |
| If and when the first rate cut occurs later this year, we think that could be another catalyst for continued outperformance for Agency MBS |
| We have tools to further grow ADE and CLOs are helping to deliver a diversified return stream |
| During the market sell-off in the first part of the quarter, we were able to manage the interest rate volatility and keep our Agency MBS portfolio largely intact |
| Seasoned mezzanine investments outperformed throughout Q4 as prepayment speeds accelerated and CLO cash balances grew, driving expectations of a deal deleveraging in January, and that strong performance has continued into 2024 |
| We were able to take advantage of the market strength to shrink our Agency MBS portfolio incrementally and redeploy that capital into CLOs |
| And overall, for the quarter, Agency MBS significantly outperformed hedging instruments |
| Meanwhile, our credit NIM, which includes CLOs and non-agency RMBS, increased to 6.28% from 4.55%, boosted by high asset yields on our larger CLO portfolio |
| But I firmly believe that our CLO strategy will prove to be a less volatile strategy and thereby, stabilize and enhance EARN's returns over time |
| I was pleased with how we navigated the market gyrations throughout 2023 and finished the year on a high note |
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| The Agency MBS market has underperformed many other fixed income sectors so far in 2024, driven by higher rates and uncertainty around the timing of Federal Reserve rate cuts |
| The first part of the quarter was characterized by continued rate sell-off, wider spreads, fund outflows, and market uncertainty about how high the Fed would need to hike short rates before achieving a noticeable improvement on inflation |
| And the 30-year Freddie mortgage survey rate despite reaching a 23-year high mid-quarter also finished lower on the quarter |
| And when that news came out, it caused lower coupons to underperform |
| For the past few years, it's undeniable that Agency MBS has been a volatile strategy for all the agency mortgage REITs, including EARN |
| With the notable exception of CMBS, which has its own unique challenges, virtually all fixed income spreads tightened for the fourth quarter, including in the markets where EARN invests, namely Agency and non-Agency RMBS and now corporate CLOs, where we've been investing to an ever-increasing extent after our recent pivot |
| But net losses in Agency MBS have led to an overall economic return for EARN that we currently estimate at negative 1.9% year-to-date through February |
| This said, the most credit-sensitive CLO profiles that is those with the lowest credit enhancement and/or most of the stressed portfolios continued to lag as investors anticipated further credit losses |
| Our Agency RMBS holdings decreased by 8% sequentially to $728 million as of December 31st as net sales and paydowns exceeded net gains |
| Meanwhile, as the backdrop for our CLO portfolio, corporate credit spreads followed a similar pattern, first widening in October and then tightening in November and December and tightening overall for the quarter as an economic soft landing narrative permeated the market |
| In addition, because we employ less leverage on our CLOs compared to Agency, the portfolio rotation has also driven down our leverage ratios |
| Second, supply is low, and it's especially low relative to the mountain of Treasury supply |
| Markets then reversed course in anticipation of the conclusion of the Federal Reserve's hiking cycle, with interest rates and volatility, both declining into year-end |
| As with much of 2023, in the fourth quarter, markets gyrated between a selloff and a rally with tumultuous October giving way to a market rally in November and December |
| So, now the CLO portfolio obviously has kind of tail credit risk in a -- especially a deep recession or something like that |
| On Slide 3, you can see that medium and long-term interest rates, despite spiking to multiyear highs in October, actually declined overall for the quarter |
| However, these sectors lagged the high-yield corporate bond market, whereby some measures, spreads tightened almost 100 basis points for the quarter |
| The decline was primarily due to an increase in shareholders' equity and a significantly lower leverage on the CLO portfolio relative to our agency holdings |
| I mean what do you feel like would support more dollar roll specialness in the market? Do you feel like it's reasonable to expect that, that could come back if there's any changes to Fed policy? Mark Tecotzky I would say that for some of these higher coupons, I think the dollar rolls have predictably gotten weaker because you've sort of built up now an array of kind of faster-paying pools |
| First question, I guess, is, did I hear correctly that you said book value was down about 1.9% thus far this year? Was that total economic return? Larry Penn Total economic return |
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