Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
This was a very strong quarter for our SPS business
We've progressed through the pre-planning phases over the past few months and really excited about what we have
We're getting to the point now where we have a pretty strong feel of what we have and we're very excited about it
Third, and positively, we were able to offset some of the year's challenges with superb commercial execution throughout the business
Most notably, our Specialties team increased margins for the fifth consecutive year
Strategically, 2023 was a foundational year which positions us well to achieve our ultimate strategic objectives
Our Specialties business has solidified itself as a commercial leader in the space
Our unique integrated asset base, customer focus, and commercial and technical know-how are lasting advantages
Last year, we built on this by successfully integrating our Performance Brands and Specialty Products and Solutions segments into a single Specialties group
And we see additional opportunity here as we capture value from our agility, optionality and breadth of offering throughout the entire Specialty Products value chain
But remember, Montana/Renewables' core advantage is our ability to switch feedstocks and take advantage of whatever market is strong
They're doing an exceptional job and really able to go out and have a lot of confidence to perform in any market
We demonstrated our ability to source competitively advantaged feed
You know we've implemented commercial best-in-class programs that have allowed us to perform and deliver results, really, in any type of environment that we've encountered the past three, four, five years
But with that said, and Todd and David touched on this during the script, you know, we've delivered five years in a row of record results within that Specialty side of the business
The emergence of a rapidly growing SaaS market is extremely exciting for industry, and we're thrilled to be positioned at the tip of the spear along with our partners at Shell
Within fuels, we've seen crack margins improve from three-year lows that we hit in mid-December
But ultimately, our sales are contracted formulaically, they align with the steady margin formula that we've talked about historically, and I'd say those are working very well exactly as expected
But in general, I'd say our product distribution has been exceptional
We believe our story is an interesting one for investors, and we're excited to provide the ability for them to partake in a new Calumet, one which has been transformed over the past few years, which has two competitively advantaged businesses and significant near-term catalysts that we believe present a meaningful value proposition
Not only is MaxSAF a huge opportunity, but we also expect it to be another catalyst in a potential Montana/Renewables monetization, which continues to be an ultimate deleveraging step for the organization
The first of these is demonstrating the top decile profitability potential of Montana/Renewables, which given the old feed and inventory overhang mentioned earlier, we expect to occur in the second quarter
You can see in the lower right-hand chart a steadily increasing volume of intermediates between our SPS and PB business as the team continues to drive an integrated business model which we believe provides a unique advantage across our platform
We've also seen tallow, a waste product adjust rapidly and strong tallow margins continue to exist
In a normal environment, we'd expect the relatively short length of Montana/Renewables supply chain to be a differentiated advantage in times like this
The team has done a really good job these last several years, capitalizing on an improved margin environment while also making lasting step-change improvements within the business
As you can see turning to Slide 11, we have delivered five consecutive years of growth in our Specialties business
Our team continues to do a nice job capturing value from the optionality and integration of our various business across SPS and the PB segment
As the energy transition continues to evolve, we believe Calumet is positioned for success
As discussed today, we're well positioned in Montana for both renewable diesel and SAF growth, and our Specialties business can flex fuel production up or down as the market dictates
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
The events of 2023 highlighted some of our infrastructure weaknesses, both within and outside the plant
Our institutional and passive investor base is tiny in size which results in our units being very thinly traded, which also is a deterrent to new investors
I think if we look forward, we look at what margins have done right now, industry margins have softened a little bit and we know we have some impact of old feed
While operations performed well at our legacy asphalt plant during the quarter, the winter is always difficult in this business as roads aren't being paved and local gasoline demand dries up
Of course, over time, biodiesel would have a difficult time competing at low industry margins, inventories in the supply chain should build, and one of the variables in the proxy equation has to react
So the steam drum crack undoubtedly pushed us back
Roger, overall, we say demand is slowed
Moving to our Montana businesses, you can see on Slide 13 that we recorded a loss of $25.8 million of adjusted EBITDA in the quarter and generated $30.2 million of adjusted EBITDA for the full year
Second, the combination of a winter freeze and summer tornadoes in Shreveport underpinned roughly $70 million of lost opportunity in our specialties business
That's putting a lot of pressure on the farmers and on the ag sector
All of our tanks are full, our supply chain is full, and our ability to shift gears and optimize feed classes is going to be delayed till we clear that inbound
The impact of Q4 was solely on operations and a turnaround and not being able to spread fixed costs and capture those economies of scale
As you alluded to, we've seen the demand slow
We've seen the chemical industry have a lot of challenges
The issue we ran into was with the downtimes due to the steam drum, we underran production
Recently, we've seen market renewable diesel margins hit a trough
Remember that there's a lot of global pressure to pull SAF into physical commerce
I would say we saw the typical seasonal slower demand at year-end
We're getting through the end of our inventory challenges here
I was really on Montana in trying to get a sense of what the lost profit opportunity was because it was a tougher quarter, but you had a turnaround and you had a period where you're working through some high-priced inventory
   

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