Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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I think that the I’m glad you brought that point up, I think that $1 billion business or a $900 million business that is a 21% margin is a pretty good business
We continue to see a consistent flow of remediation and waste projects in the quarter, which helped drive a 24% increase in Q4 landfill volumes with the average pricing up 3%
So we have a really strong pipeline up in Canada
Our full year and fourth quarter 2023 performance underscores the role of our Environmental Services segment as the long-term growth engine for Clean Harbors
The strong core we have built through organic initiatives and strategic M&A continues to strengthen our sustainable business model with unique competitive advantages
These advantages include a portfolio of difficult to replicate assets, a diverse customer base, high-value services anchored by strong pricing as well as an outstanding and highly skilled workforce
As our ES results were up 2023 demonstrated we continue to drive increased efficiencies in areas such as labor, transportation and logistics, while capturing meaningful acquisition synergies as we advance our Vision 2027 strategy
And as Eric said, that pipeline is very strong going into 2024
We're seeing very strong demand
Environmental Services capped a record year with an outstanding fourth quarter in its ninth consecutive quarter of year-over-year EBITDA growth
That concluded an exceptional 2023 for this segment, where we increased our annual adjusted EBITDA margin by 160 basis points
All of our ES businesses, Technical Services, Safety-Kleen environment, industrial services and field services, delivered growth in Q4 as demand for our highly trained workforce and unique asset base continues to be strong
Volumes sold was a positive metric and increased significantly from Q4 in 2022 as the team worked hard to continue to grow its sales pipeline, especially with our blended and value-added products to offset weaker pricing
Our positive facilities outlook is further supported by an encouraging level of interest across all of our services businesses
The team delivered a Q4 TRIR of 0.51, which resulted in a full year of 2023 rate of 0.63, the best safety performance in our history and far exceeding our annual goal
Segment revenue increased 7% due to continued service growth, increased disposal volumes, solid pricing and the addition of the Thompson Industrial while EBITDA increased 16%, resulting in margin expansion of 190 basis points from the fourth quarter of 2022
In the quarter, as it has all year, our Safety-Kleen Environmental Services business led the way with 11% top line growth
Containerized waste services continued its strong growth trajectory stemming from sales initiatives designed to drive more waste into our network
Technical Services revenue rose 5%, led by pricing and greater year-over-year volumes into our incinerators, landfills and our TSDFs incineration utilization was 85% versus 84% a year ago
Average incineration pricing was up 7% in the quarter due to a favorable mix and pricing initiatives and for the year, incineration pricing was up 9%
We ended the year with steady volumes and a healthy backlog
In conclusion, Q4 was a great finish to a record year in our ES segment
Given some of the promising initiatives we have underway, such as our Group III project and increasing blended sales, we expect to hear substantial progress in this segment and towards greater long-term stability
Our relationships with our customers have continued to grow more solid
Despite no large-scale emergency response events, field service revenue was up 3% in Q4 through better cross-selling and leverage of our organization
Industrial Services revenue grew 8% in the quarter as it benefited from a strong fall turnaround season in the addition of Thompson Industrial
As I mentioned a moment ago, overall ES segment EBITDA was up for an impressive 16% to Q4, more than double our revenue growth of 7% as we leverage our facilities, fix assets and workforce
In addition, demand for our disposal and recycling facilities continues to enable us to execute on our pricing strategies, capture more volumes and drive a more favorable mix into our network
we enhanced our margins, not only from pricing, but from our cost savings programs as well as our productivity and technology initiatives
Demand for all of our service businesses remains consistently strong
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
SKSS fell short of our expectations in Q4
SKSS adjusted EBITDA declined 14% in Q4, entirely related to the more narrow spread compared to last year and the pricing slowdown we experienced over the course of the quarter
As a result, SKSS revenue was 7% lower year-over-year in the quarter
We recognize that this business has faced challenges in 2023 as the market continued to adjust after an extraordinary 2022 and after a series of price declines and destocking by customers throughout much of 2023
As I mentioned in my prepared comments, we did still have some weather challenges in the quarter as we did last year
Turning to SKSS on Slide 6, after a promising start in October, following the September price increase, base oil and blended pricing began to shift the other way and grew more challenging as we moved through the quarter
I know we had a really, really tough weather back in '23
The market pricing improvements we saw in October faded as the quarter progressed
They have recovered quite a bit, but January was still tough on those plans as they were for the incinerator as recurred to preside his remarks
I think when you talk about Q3, in particular, and some of the challenges we saw last year from the plant disruptions, first, I would say that the plants are up and running well
The weakness in base oil and blended pricing was partially offset by greater volumes sold at both base and blended oil as well as a shift to charge for oil versus a pay-for-oil average a year ago for our waste oil collection services
So those are the 2 segments and then corporate really kind of inflationary pressures as the business grows
Mike Battles Tyler,, the only thing I'd add to that, Eric, is absolutely right, but the challenge is those costs have gone up
Similar to 2023, some severe weather in January this year impacted our disposal networks, some branch locations and customers
That's not a -- that's going to be great over some time horizon
I don't think in our guide, we had improving modestly
Yes, that gets me to a pretty steep drop in SKSS year-over-year, as you're suggesting
We still want to grow as I said in my remarks, mid- to high single digits for the year, but that Q1 is still going to be a drag
Obviously, a little bit of a steep decline in Q1, as I mentioned
And so the thought is that as we get into the balance of the year on SKSS, maybe you can talk through the Group III initiative, the blended ones and kind of what the self-help looks like this year for SKSS, as I recall, you also had some production issues in the third quarter and lapping those should support as well
   

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