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| These two trend lines remain positive and we expect them to culminate in a substantially bigger and more profitable business |
| And that's really coupled with a number of simulators we deliver and utilization in our training centers, that's why we're basically saying we expect a strong Q4, reflecting in the heightened guidance that we gave for Civil last quarter |
| We generated strong free cash flow in the quarter, enabling us to further bolster our financial position in line with our leverage targets |
| We also made excellent progress to secure CAE's future with nearly $1.3 billion in total order intake for an $11.7 billion backlog |
| In Civil, we had strong financial performance that reflected the quarterly mix that we anticipated with demand for commercial and business aviation training solutions continuing to be robust across all regions |
| And just -- I know to repeat everything I said, but I feel very confident about that we have a business in Defense |
| We booked $845 million of orders with customers worldwide for an impressive 1.36x book-to-sales ratio, which is even more remarkable on revenue that's 20% higher than Q3 of last year |
| We also had strong order activity in our JVs this quarter, representing another approximate $135 million of training services orders, which are not included in the order intake figure, but are reflected in the record $6.1 billion total Civil backlog |
| At the same time, our outlook for Civil remains robust |
| We continue to have very strong momentum in business aviation as well with over $300 million of order intake in the quarter driven primarily by training services agreements with U.S |
| The continued high level of order activity this quarter across all Civil segments underscores our ability to win share in a large secular growth market with these highly differentiated training and flight services solutions |
| At the same time, the outlook for Civil remains very robust |
| I would tell you about, give or take, about 10% of what we believe that we have very, very strong cases and documented evidentiary reports claims into customers |
| These teams have been working for some time and they have had good progress in executing and reducing the burden that we're facing here in Defense already |
| The growth in the core business, which I feel is very strong and which is influenced by the ramp-up in the transformative new business that we've talked about the 20% growth in the backlog that we've had in the last couple of years |
| This is a strong business that we're working through these legacy contracts |
| In Civil, we expect to continue our above market growth momentum for training and flight services solutions, underpinned by strong secular passenger tractor growth, continued success penetrating shared attorney market and a high level of demand for pilots and pilot training across all segments of aviation |
| What we're giving today is more precision, specific on these legacy contracts to give you an idea of what this represents by itself and also to give you a feeling that we're quite confident in the core of this business |
| And there's a lot of history from other companies to do that, but suffice it to say that I'm very optimistic |
| And as we said before, as you can do the math, we fully expect a pretty darn good and we have very good visibility on that because, obviously, we're pretty close to the end and we know what scenarios we have to deliver |
| We have considerable headroom for growth in the Civil aviation market and our continued positive momentum underscores the strong demand for CAE's highly differentiated trading and flight services solutions and our ability to win share within this large and secular growth market |
| And that's going to be pretty good for recurring revenue going forward |
| And you can just see it with regards again to the order intake, this quarter, I mean, we're talking about a very strong book-to-bill on top of 20% growth in revenue |
| And again, we have some very strong bookings in our train center |
| And I see that a very strong interest in us delivering what we call our next-gen solution, which is Software-as-a-Service |
| The progress that we're making -- that we've been making to replenish and grow the backlog with higher quality profitable programs is the best indication of what the future holds for CAE's Defense business |
| Together with a $9.5 billion pipeline of bids and proposals outstanding, we continue to see positive signs of the transformation underway |
| This sets us up very well for sustainable growth and includes the strategic and generational wins on next-gen platforms that we've talked about in recent quarters |
| And I've been very happy with the order intake that we've had from customers |
| But clearly, I mean, if you look at the order intake that we have, the book-to-bill that we have, and I think you're going to continue to see strong growth |
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| Defense margin this quarter included the negative impact of the ongoing retirement of 8 distinct legacy contracts that have completion dates mainly within our next two fiscal years |
| To be more precise, the execution of these 8 legacy contracts had an approximate 2 percentage points negative impact on the Defense segment operating income margin in the third quarter |
| In addition, as we've mentioned in the past, the delay of the ramp up of new expected orders and especially the transformational ones because they move the needle |
| Defense performance was lower than the third quarter last year, as we continue to retire risk on a group of distinct legacy contracts, which Sonya will describe in more detail in her section |
| These contracts are only a small fraction of the business, but have disproportionately impacted overall Defense profitability as they have been the most significantly impacted by execution difficulties and the broader economic headwinds we've discussed in past quarters, such as the compounding effects of inflationary pressures and disruptions to supply chain and labor |
| Sonya Branco So what we've done this quarter is endeavored to resends the few contracts that have a disproportionate negative impact on the business |
| In Civil, third quarter revenue was up 20% of $622.1 million compared to the third quarter last year and adjusted segment operating income was down 5% to $124.2 million versus the third quarter of last year for a margin of 20% |
| At the same time, as the retirement of these legacy contracts, which drag against the overall margin |
| The market is reacting very negatively -- or additional -- sorry, information on the legacy contract market is reacting very negatively around that |
| James McGarragle My question is with regard to how you're looking at deploying capital in the Defense segment, it seems like returns on that business right now, they're below your target |
| So with all the mix headwinds that you highlighted, this quarter, and it seems like some of that goes away next quarter |
| Because in a lot of cases, that's what got us into the situation in the first place where you have development contracts, that again, fixed burn price, you incur delays because of, well, first, we went through COVID with everything that goes along with that with regards to part shortages, with manpower shortages on top of everything escalating basically compound escalation with regard to the inflationary environment where we have no protection |
| In Defense, revenue was up 4% to $472.4 million, while adjusted segment operating income was down 18% to $20.9 million giving us an adjustment segment operating income margin of 4.4% |
| James McGarragle And then if we look at the book-to-bill on the Defense side, it came in below 1% |
| And our efforts to retire them as quick as possible is going to affect that |
| Benoit Poirier And just looking at the Civil margins, you reached 20% EBIT margin this quarter, which is a step down versus to the 25.4% achieved a year ago despite having stronger revenue, greater utilization rate |
| I'm just wondering, do you think the business is big enough to absorb these type of hiccups? And what I mean by that, it doesn't look at the absolute dollars the impact from these legacy contract issues is large, but it's also coming off a smaller base |
| So utilization, so we don't get caught out that if the customer uses more or less of the demand that we somehow are disproportionately affected |
| And these days, I can tell you nobody is looking to cancel bookings |
| But for now, based on the discussions that we have with customers, there's still a lot of unmet demand in this market |
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