Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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And we've seen meaningful growth in both our earnings and EBITDA margins in both of our business over that time frame
Sequential pricing for both I-joists and LVL was up 3% due to better-than-expected market conditions and fourth quarter rebate adjustments that had a positive impact on net price realizations
We further executed our growth strategy through organic and acquisition initiatives, and we also provided meaningful returns to our shareholders through share price gains and dividends
And I think that puts us in a really strong position, not only today, but for the future because as far as I'm aware, we have the highest level of veneer self-sufficiency as it relates to EWP production
And so while I'm not going to put a fine point on an EBITDA margin percentage for either business, we do feel really good about our strategy, our focus and our ability for our earnings to continue to look meaningfully better than they did in 2019
So as you think about that earnings, performance and stability, maybe as compared to where we were five plus years ago, I think we've strengthened our EWP franchise in terms of our capabilities, our overall footprint in terms of our volume and also, in some cases, we've taken out some products that we simply no longer produce
Both of our businesses again delivered strong operating and financial results
And so what you're seeing with that expansion there, those are higher-margin profile items of the growth, and it's working very well for us exactly what we're trying to do
I'm pleased with the status of our BROSCO integration efforts and the financial results thus far delivered by our new teammates
And we feel good about, obviously, where we're going, given our investments that will be taking place in Alabama and Louisiana here over the next couple of years
That makes us pretty confident that we think we have set a higher bar
We are safer and better organization as a result
On a year-over-year basis, fourth quarter volumes for I-joists and LVL were up 79% and 29%, respectively, driven by the sharp improvement in single-family housing starts
So as you think about, again, what the expectations are and the needs are on the job side, I think we feel really good about I-joist being an important answer to reducing cycle times for the builder
Looking forward to the first quarter, good momentum in single-family starts is a nice setup for EWP sales volumes, where we expect high single-digit growth in LVL volumes and modestly higher I-joist volumes on a sequential basis
And again, we feel good about how that's showing up in the marketplace each and every day, both for our customers and our suppliers
So I may not be directly answering your question, but yes, there is two components and we feel really good about our position
As we typically do, we have grown our inventory since year-end and are well positioned to support the upcoming spring building season
And when you think about what's been happening, I'll say, in recent times, we are starting to see our I-joist demand improved, not insignificantly compared to times gone by
We feel good about the medium to long term around single-family housing and gives us conviction around the projects we're doing to make sure we have product available
Our longer-term view on housing fundamentals is favorable, supported by demographic trends and underbilled housing stock
As Kelly mentioned, we remain well positioned to invest in our existing asset base and organic growth opportunities in both businesses as reflected in our robust 2024 capital spending plans
However, when you think about where we put ourselves relative to the product line, specifically I-joist, it is a very, very favorable product line because of the ease of installation and the ability to transport it significantly longer distances
housing stock and elevated levels of homeowner equity have provided a favorable backdrop of repair and remodel spending
But as things kind of tension of the conversation will be who can serve and support my business, and again, as Mike described, we feel good about how we're positioned to do that
And it's really critical, obviously, during the building season that you have that provide that great capability and experience for both obviously the lumber yard side of things as well as the homebuilders
So should we see and we sort of actually did see this during the pandemic when we had an uptick in housing starts, we were able to respond very, very quickly to that demand
We are excited about our expanded capital expenditure plan in 2024
And so what we spoke to when we did the Coastal acquisition was that, that provided us relief constraints we had around veneer so that we would have a better opportunity to be able to run volumes that were closer to our nameplate capacity
We anticipate our daily sales pace will accelerate as we move through the quarter and expect our first quarter 2024 EBITDA margins to be around 5%
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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BMD's sales pace thus far in the first quarter of 2024 is approximately 10% below fourth quarter daily sales averages with extreme weather across most of the country in January, delaying many shipments to job sites
In addition, BMD's overall gross margin percentage was 15.2%, down 60 basis points from the 15.8% reported in fourth quarter 2022
BMD's EBITDA margin, including the previously mentioned acquisition-related costs, was 5.6 -- excuse me, 5.4% for the quarter, down from the 6.9% reported in the year ago quarter and down 90 basis points sequentially
Which is that the gross margin in the Wood Products came down in the fourth quarter, but pricing held across most of those products
The $375 per 1,000 average plywood net sales price in fourth quarter was down 5% from fourth quarter 2022 and down 2% sequentially
Wood Products reported segment EBITDA of $92.7 million, down from EBITDA of $99.7 million reported in the year ago quarter
In addition, general and administrative expenses increased $5.7 million, approximately $3 million of which were BROSCO acquisition-related costs, which had a negative impact on our reported earnings per share of approximately $0.06 per share
Despite recent declines in mortgage rates and homebuilders responding with various mechanisms to attract buyers, home affordability remains a challenge for consumers
The decline in segment EBITDA was driven by increased selling and distribution expenses of $12.9 million compared to the same quarter in the prior year
However, there's reservation that multifamily starts may pull back from recent record highs due to capital cost for developers combined with cooling rents and elevated supply
I can tell you that there are still pricing pressures in specific geographies
We are seeing some pricing pressures we've alluded to in EWP
The decrease in segment EBITDA was due primarily to lower EWP and plywood sales prices and an increase in other manufacturing costs
As we go forward from here, I mean, we highlighted a couple of key things, which will be out of the spring building season play out in terms of what kind of volume growth do we expect to see in the first quarter and then there's continued competitive pressures around EWP pricing
On pricing, we expect to experience mid-single-digit sequential declines
Plywood volumes decreased during the current quarter as we shifted a higher proportion of our internally produced veneer into EWP production, given the change in demand for EWP
You talked about mid-single-digit price erosion in EWP in Q1
So yes, I think you saw or we saw some sort of changes in the dynamic during the pandemic, where because of the, I'll say, the relatively constrained supply of I-joist mainly due to the lack of people, open web prices gained some favor
By product line, commodity sales decreased 8%
The previously mentioned $6.2 million of pretax accelerated depreciation from our Chapman lumber curtailment did not affect our EBITDA, but did negatively impact our earnings per share in the quarter by approximately $0.12 per share
   

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