Earnings Sentiment

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Earnings Call Transcript Word Cloud

     

Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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So I would say the traction is very strong
Infrastructure, renewable power, and energy transition are expected to be among the fastest growing alternative asset sectors for very good reason
And really for high quality assets, I would say the bid in early 2024 has been very, very robust and what we are seeing is New Year allocations, stability in interest rates, and an increasingly open financing market, really being a driver of one, enhanced transaction activity and two, creating an environment that's more supportive for valuation
This obviously presents a tremendous opportunity for our infrastructure business and its leading data center capacity or its leading data center platform
So we expect our expense growth to moderate in 2024, resulting in a sizable improvement to our margins across the business
Our goal has always been to generate strong risk adjusted returns by acquiring assets for value, leveraging our operational capability to grow cash flows, and compounding capital over the long-term
By staying ahead of market trends and continuously innovating, we've been able to help our clients achieve their investment objectives in ways that truly matter to them
But what we would say is with the upcoming closing of the AEL transaction, that business has very, very significant scale in the United States and becomes one of the market leaders and can deliver tremendous amounts of organic growth very accretively
All of this should drive significant growth in our fee revenues in 2024
Fee related earnings grew 6% to $2.2 billion and the distributable earnings grew 7%, also to $2.2 billion
The significant capital we raised over the past year sets us up for strong growth in 2024 and with much of the investment in our platform complete, our cost growth should moderate
The combination of faster revenue growth and slower cost growth should mean a strong year for FRE and DE growth
And that's why I think we're seeing such strong fundraising success there
The strategy has been very well received and we've raised almost $2 billion over the past year
It is well-positioned to take advantage in this market environment and secure some very, very attractive value entry points
Over 60% of the investors in this fund are new to the strategy, showcasing Brookfield's leadership position in the infrastructure debt space
And we mentioned that we're seeing great traction for our BSREP franchise that's in the market
We're thrilled with the traction that the fund has been getting, and really, it's important to recognize what our flagship fund offers
So you combine that strong operating performance with how we fund our businesses, we see a path to riding through this
These challenges will require trillions of capital investment and our infrastructure, renewable power and energy transition businesses are well-positioned to deliver solutions
And the one thing that’s often being overlooked in the real estate market right now is high quality underlying assets are performing exceptionally well
We are now approximately 40% deployed across six large scale assets and the momentum on the capital deployment front is very strong
We believe that our scale, diversity, reputation and strong track record distinguish us in these areas, and we continue to invest in our franchise and strengthen our brand, and we believe we'll come out of this period of consolidation even more dominant than we entered
And with the breadth of our real estate franchise and how we fund our businesses, we're in a great position to ride through this environment, continue to keep refinancing our businesses
And I don't have much to add beyond what Bahir said, other than to say that we're very fortunate to have very strong financial resources on our balance sheet
We are confident that credit will be a meaningful driver of BAM's growth over the next decade, given the industry tailwinds and our collective focus
Most will benefit from our insurance assets under management and from our client relationships
The second one is entirely commercial, which is the last two or three years have demonstrated to market participants that investing in transition is a very, very attractive risk adjusted return and a very large and growing attractive commercial strategy
The first, I would say is a, let me start by saying yes, we have a very strong belief that the number of LPs in BGTF II will dramatically, meaningfully exceed the numbers of LPs in BGTF I
And perhaps the thing that gets us really excited is the re-up rates we're seeing from our clients are particularly strong in real estate, and that's really a function of our franchise and something that gives us confidence in hitting that target fundraise this year
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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We're seeing renewed concerns about the commercial real estate market in the U.S., I would say punctuated by some comments by Janet Yellen, highlighting some risks here
At the same time, interest rates are now falling, which do indicate that annuity sales may also go down
But what was more difficult in that environment was large scale monetizations
Maybe just a couple of points here is the -- there is no doubt that there is a little bit of stress in certain portions of the real estate market
So that's down 200 basis points from the prior year
But higher competition could impact your retail channel flow
And that uncertainty did not make for a robust environment for capital recycling and for monetizations
And that's what causes some of the slip from Q4 into the early part of the year
But perhaps one thing that we feel is not entirely recognized is with the new large scale data centers that are required to support the growth of cloud and AI, these are very large, computationally intensive and energy intensive, and therefore, putting one of them on a power grid has a destabilizing impact
One, the nice thing about the AEL transaction is we have a playbook that we just executed on through American National, and we knew exactly what we did there in order to drive growth and increase profitability in that business
Throughout 2023, interest rates were increasing, but more important than them increasing was their trajectory was uncertain
Is it possible that the margin gets back to the 56 level -- 56% level? I think it wasn't kind of the prior year period
Connor Teskey Yes, like very little concern
And this is not a market opportunity for the future
Is there anything seasonal about the fourth quarter, or was it Argo that really impacted the fourth quarter inflows and outflows
So it looks like competition is intensifying
And that's simply a function of the uncertainty in the market increasingly being removed as interest rates stabilize
The issue is on funding and liquidity, as opposed to underlying operating performance, and that's certainly what we're seeing in our portfolio
So is it an unusual dynamic? Perhaps
And we made the conscious decision to not force ourselves to realize assets in that market and more appropriately, wait for better times
   

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