Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
We are pleased to deliver continued growth in 2023, achieving 24% total revenue growth
We signed agreements to purchase approximately $7 million of annual reoccurring revenue so far and the pipeline is strong
While we're pleased to have been able to generate revenues from the ERTC program, we want to remind you that our core business continues to perform very well, and we hope that our discussion today helps illustrate our plans for the future as we move on from ERTC
And again, it's going to perform great this year, we think
Margin expansion for the full year was driven by growing high-margin revenue streams, continued progress with our efficiency initiatives and scale benefits from our growth
And so, I feel really good about the momentum that we currently have
Our net loss was $9.2 million, a $5.3 million improvement versus the prior year, and adjusted EBITDA was up 97% versus the prior-year period
We have multiple growth drivers in our business with HR Compliance, Asure Marketplace and our Payroll Tax Management solution showing very strong growth in 2023
We believe that over time, these business lines can become much larger contributors to our overall revenues, as our Payroll Tax Management offering continues to grow, it can contribute to our float balances growing as well
We continue to build on our momentum by advancing our technology through leading partnerships and launching strategic sales initiative, such as the bundling of our 401(k) products with payroll to drive new client additions
As John mentioned earlier, when we view the business excluding ERTC, the core revenues continue to grow at a healthy double-digit rate, and our guidance for 2024 implies a 25%-plus potential growth rate
which helps improve the cost structure
Our margins and cash flow have continued to improve as the businesses scale, and we have focused on improving efficiency across the business
So, when I look at bookings and Eyal, who's our Chief Revenue Officer and President, he's done a fantastic job, one of the initiatives that we're trying to do is, we think that there's base sales growth that while we've achieved a lot of success in the model, we think we can even do better, and that's where we're going to work those percentages
What we want to do is even that out over time, we believe that we have an opportunity to continue to drive our base business
So that good, strong bookings, a lot going on in the business
Our sales efforts during 2023 resulted in a 56% increase in new bookings versus the prior year, and we're pleased with the productivity per rep we're experiencing
We remain excited about what lies ahead for this business
Our recent partnership announcement with Workday and SAP are great accomplishments for our payroll tax management business, and as John mentioned, we saw good growth for that product offering during 2023
We have signed agreements to purchase approximately $7 million of annual recurring revenue and the pipeline is very strong
As we look at the business excluding ERTC from 2023, our guidance for 2024 implies a 25%-plus growth rate, which is very positive
Additionally, reviewing our growth, excluding ERTC for the past few years, we're witnessing solid double-digit growth in the implied 25% growth rate in our guidance of 2024 would be an acceleration of the rates we saw in previous years
So, we think we're positioned really nicely, and you'll see that throughout the year
So, we think we have really good onboarding training
But bookings, we had another really, really strong year
Asure Marketplace has been a strong contributor as well via our partnerships with Equifax, H&R Block and ZayZoon
So in other words, if you think about kind of where we're at, we've had a lot of really good success in the marketplace and in tax filing as well as ERTC
Full year recurring revenues grew by 16% to $99.7 million year-over-year, and excluding ERTC, revenues were up 19% from the prior year
Full year and fourth quarter recurring revenues grew on the strength of HR Compliance solutions, Asure Marketplace and increased interest revenues with average client balances exceeding $200 million during the year
So, we've been really pleased with that
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Gross margins for the fourth quarter decreased to 68% from 72% in the prior year
Non-GAAP gross margins for the fourth quarter decreased to 72% from 76% in the prior year
The decline in margins during the fourth quarter were driven by lower revenues versus the prior year as a result of lower ERTC revenue
Fourth quarter total revenues were $26.3 million, decreasing by 10% relative to prior year
EBITDA for the fourth quarter was $1.1 million, down from $5 million in the prior year
Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter decreased to $2.8 million from $6 million in the prior year, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 11% in the quarter compared with 21% in the prior year
But we -- at this point in time, the volume of activity with ERTC has gone down quite a bit
I would say that ERTC going away put pressure on the fourth quarter, but we don't see a lot of incremental costs going into 2024 from the fourth quarter, it's kind of my perspective
So, the IRS has paused
Net loss for the fourth quarter was $3.6 million versus $1.1 million during the prior year
That remains a question for Congress and the IRS
I mean the ERTC creates a lot of noise in terms of the numbers and the compares, but the core business, when you start to exclude it really is performing just fine
We are excluding ERTC given the uncertainty about the future of the program
Richard Baldry And in terms of revenue seasonality, from Q1 to Q2 is usually a dip because of the W2 type upswing in Q1
And it's actually one of the things that we do when pricing, we might forego some fee revenue just to get the client balances
And I'll tell you what, I couldn't be more pleased with our sales folks
So, I think we had a bit of a pivot in September 14 when the ERTC paused, but we have no shortage of opportunities with new product introduction, new technology as well as our bundling and people are quite frankly, pretty fired up
   

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