Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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And that's a product of, I think, a better customer experience
And we feel good about the momentum trend across the business
But what's really happening is strong growth and margin expansion continuing in digital and then offset by some profitability declines, which is what we'd expect
And so Vivian, I think, is very well positioned there
I think that these businesses did a phenomenal job, very smartly raising enough capital to be able to weight out markets
We are -- and I'll also just point out, and I think you said some layer of monetized transactions are doing better than the trend line in service requests, because we are doing a better job with stuff that monetizes well and matching that better with service professionals
Those things improve our margins on the unit economics of any transaction
And one of the things that's been happening certainly over the course of the last year, is we've been both improving the mix shift, and improving the quality of those SRs, to help drive the win rate, and that's something that we hope to continue
So they're all separate factors, but we feel good about the pace and executing on those this year forward to drive growth
And that's better matching with service professionals and a better chance of getting a job done well
And then finally, Performance marketing, the - Neil and the team are exceptional performance marketers
Giving them more compelling, committed offers; giving them a chance of success, and some things we've done on the demand side to improve the mix of demand to help their win rates
Programmatic, the team has done a great job with our ad stack and continuing to optimize and improve the performance of our ads and our monetization
That was sort of central to the acquisition thesis with Meredith, and I think we've done a really good job executing against that, and it's shown up a lot over the course of 2023
And I think, we've done a really good job
And we've been expanding the margins in our paid marketing through, I think, a combination of smarter spend and some conversion improvements
And obviously, that's good for margins
So, we feel pretty good about our ability to continue to manage our cost structure and feel good about incremental margins
And you can see that we've been delivering that through better - through a smaller sales force, better targeted
In terms of outlook for '24, we expect the revenue trend to improve over the course of the year from the declines you saw in Q4
And performance marketing, which has been a real source of strength throughout the year is - continues to do well
But we are - as I say, if we want to talk about a region confident, Europe did that, and Europe has had real success
But it is a - the execution so far has been really tremendous in a fun, small business
And programmatic was excellent
So that's, I think, a good thing for Angi's margins
Clearly, having it greater than one is good, because that's a better consumer experience
Premium sales is about 2/3 of our ad revenue, and that was solid really for the first time since the ad recession started in Q2 of '22
First on Dotdash, DDM Digital, the ad revenue growth acceleration was better than expected
And so, we're - we have a lot of confidence in D/Cipher's ability to deliver for our customers
It's a win for the partner, where their data combined with our data delivers better, more spend
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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But hitting a baseline in profitability recently is what drives the $20 million to $40 million of adjusted EBITDA guidance, and that's really just a reflection of the softer environment for that business
Conversely, print revenues declined 12% in Q4 of '23, and we'd expect similar declines next year
The Search and Emerging & Other were both weaker as far as the - I think, the '24 outlook versus the Street
Premium, it's been a tough market for us since we acquired DDM - since we acquired Meredith, really starting in May of '22 when the ad market fell out of bed
On Search, the business definitely experienced a tougher market environment at the end of last year
The biggest thing that we've underestimated, and we've really continually underestimated this is -- notwithstanding talking about it a lot, is service professional retention
Q1 will be the most challenging
Especially in the first half, may slow down a bit in terms of decline in the second half
I think the service request decline was one of the steepest we've seen, since you've been prioritizing quality and profitability
It has been real for a while
When you roll that up, adjusted EBITDA in aggregate will grow in Q1, but strong digital growth will be masked by declines in print
And while the valuations were down a lot, to your point, the expected premiums were up a lot, and we couldn't quite get there on those things
While we're matching with more and there is, therefore, more competition
And we expect our conversion to only improve in '24, due to a couple of factors
And therefore, it is not, I think, a productive place for opportunity
Related to that is things like bad debt
So that service request decline, while steep, is not as steep to the business as it appears
So previously, the algorithm for how a homeowner would match to historically ads pros and leads pros was complicated and, I'd say, somewhat illogical
We expect year-over-year revenue declines throughout '24, but expect that percentage to narrow as we lap the easier comps, and also the fruits of some of the actions that Joey talked about
But we really have to give pros a chance to succeed
   

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