Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We also generated positive flows in liquid alternative strategies where clients are benefiting from outstanding investment performance across a wide range of products
And so not only I think are we leaning into the megatrends, but I also think this environment is going to be very good for AMG, in particular, in liquid alternatives
AMG's strong third quarter and year-to-date results reflect the positive impact of our capital allocation strategy across both growth investments and share repurchases
And we think all of that positions us well in terms of forward flow opportunities
We're continuing to benefit from both the diversity and the depth of our private markets affiliates, and we're seeing fundraising across a number of well-positioned strategies: credit, infrastructure, secondaries, energy transition, real estate
And we think that, that's actually good for fundamental managers
-- independent partner-owned firms have fundamental competitive advantages in generating those differentiated returns, especially during periods of heightened uncertainty
And as we continue to execute against that strategy, we do expect that to enhance both the long-term organic growth of the business as well as the earnings growth of the business over time
And for our shareholders, AMG offers a unique opportunity to access the long-term growth and profitability of this diverse set of high-quality independent managers through a proven partnership approach
Given the heightened global focus on achieving a lower carbon economy, investor allocations to fund this transition are accelerating, and our partners is well positioned to continue to benefit from these secular tailwinds
We have some changes that need to happen in terms of the overall market dynamic and client preferences -- but overall, we have an extremely strong bench of long-term track records that we know that clients will demand when we get to a place in the environment that ultimately is a bit more constructive for some of these strategies
including private equity, private credit, secondaries, real estate, infrastructure, growth equity and venture capital And given our affiliates strong alignment with client demand trends and excellent investment performance, their fundraising momentum has remained strong this year, including approximately $7 billion raised year-to-date and approximately $10 billion pro forma for Forbion in our partners
These strong flows in an otherwise challenging fundraising environment highlight the appeal of our affiliates specialized strategies
We also saw modest positive flows in certain liquid alternatives, where now you've got 2, 3 years of track record after a tougher time, going back 4 or 5 years ago, and you're starting to see clients return to some of those strategies as they continue to put up very strong numbers and provide the benefits to portfolios that I just mentioned
And we have the benefit of excellent long-term performance across many of our global equity managers but certainly some more challenging near-term performance
And if we don't end up finding great growth investments over the medium term, I think we have a demonstrated ability to return capital through repurchases and both of those opportunities give us the chance to drive earnings per share growth over time
So I think overall, we feel really good about private markets
We feel really good about where we are in liquid alternatives
So we're very excited about that, and we're very excited about 4, and we're very excited about Peppertree and a number of our other specialized firms operating in private markets
After a decade of growth in direct lending, the private credit secondaries market is gaining significant momentum as an asset class with growth in both allocations and deployment opportunities
And having built a leading position in this fast-growing segment, Pantheon is well positioned to capitalize on the significant market opportunity that's unfolding
Our affiliates continue to generate outstanding investment performance and their excellent long-term track records across credit, real estate, secondaries and infrastructure are driving fundraising momentum
Importantly, though I used the word earlier, optionality, and that's something that we feel very strongly about
And so to kind of nail your question down, I think the good news about liquid alternatives is we've got great performance
So those are the structural tailwinds that we are trying to get in front of and our partners is well positioned in those trends
Our 2 growth investments in 2023 for Bandra Partners, which both operate in our strategic focus areas are strong evidence of the success of our enhanced new investment approach
Looking ahead, having advanced several attractive new investment opportunities during the quarter, we are well positioned to increase our new investment activity, further evolving the composition of our business towards in-demand strategies
We will continue to evolve our business through growth investments in new and existing affiliates given our unmatched 30-year track record of successful partnerships, our new investment prospects and our significant financial flexibility
So that's just excellent paper for us and really gives us a lot of flexibility
-- our discipline is evidenced by our track record, having invested more than $1.6 billion in growth areas over the past 5 years, while also returning more than $2 billion in excess capital to shareholders over the same period
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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During the quarter, the changing market environment continued to challenge investors as the collective impact of higher rates, persistent inflation and increasing geopolitical risks pressured clients' ability to achieve their investment objectives
Industry headwinds in equities continued, and we saw approximately $7 billion in net outflows in global strategies as well as $3 billion in U.S
I think it starts, as you mentioned, with the overall industry dynamic and the environment, and I spoke to this a bit in the answer to a previous question, but I think clients are really challenged in terms of how they're thinking about the global equity market environment today
So the full pressure there continues to be unrelenting really for the industry and still a challenge for you guys as well
And I think it's incredibly challenging for institutions to manage their exposures there
When you think about flows at the highest level, obviously, we continue to see this bifurcation between strength and alternatives, both private markets and liquid alternatives as well as challenges on the fundamental equity side
So first, what do you view as the key drivers in the $3 billion sequential increase in net flows? And do you view it as sustainable? And then secondly, historically, the industry has had some redemption challenges in 4Q and December months, partly driven by seasonality and year-end decisions
Many of our affiliates, while still experiencing the difficulty of that environment are really bucking that trend
We made 2 new investments in affiliates operating in areas of secular growth, and we continue to invest alongside our affiliates to magnify their competitive advantages
Obviously, the 2023 fundraising environment has been incredibly challenging, very well documented in terms of denominator effect and the like
In terms of our expectations for the fourth quarter, there always is year-end cleanup in housekeeping in terms of the way that institutions want to go into 2024, I think we're still seeing lots of uncertainty in the market, particularly with respect to equities and particularly with respect to global equities, there's a lot going on in the world
The second thing, of course, is you do have to have good performance
It's been more difficult in the short term, but we are still looking
The other thing is we continue to be in a market that's changing
And there is obviously the macro backdrop that Tom just mentioned, but that's going to change over time, too
Brian Bedell Maybe just to go back to some of the things you talked about in the original comments on the pipeline of new investment activity and the fact that you're stressing the -- you continue to emphasize the private capital area
So I don't think we see anything outsized on the institutional side in terms of our expectations other than continued uncertainty and really waiting for the market to develop a bit
We expect fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA to be between $260 million and $285 million based on current AUM levels, reflecting our market blend, which was down 1% quarter-to-date as of Friday
And look, that cash is obviously earning quite a bit
Fundamentally, we partner to magnify the advantages of independent firms
   

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