Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Certainly in comparison to our peers, it's one of the stronger performances on underwriting and on return on equity and that so we're proud of those results
The Specialty Property and Casualty insurance operations generated an outstanding 87.7% combined ratio in the fourth quarter of 2023, about a point higher than the exceptional 86.6% reported in the prior year fourth quarter
So if you look overall, I think while we wouldn't explicitly put anything in there to say anything about prior development, we're optimistic that we could have some and feel good about where our reserves are
Our compelling mix of special insurance businesses and entrepreneurial culture, disciplined operating philosophy, and an astute team of in-house investment professionals collectively have enabled us to outperform many of our peers over time
And we had ended up with excellent underwriting results in ENS, Sonborough and excess liability overall
I think another positive thing we saw in the fourth quarter on the pricing front was our commercial auto pricing, their national interstate Vanliner moved to 10, move to double digit to 10% plus which I see as a positive competitive sign
Returning capital to our shareholders is an important component of our capital management strategy and reflects our strong financial position and our confidence in AFG's financial future
Historically, we've done better than that
Growth in adjusted book value per share plus dividends was an impressive 16.6% in 2023
We're proud of the value we've created for shareholders over time
So we think it's going to take 12 to 18 months to work through this new inventory, the new supply of multifamily properties, and then we do expect that we will have the ability to push rental rates more in line with what we've done in the recent past and generate strong returns
They're markets with very strong population growth
We've generated fantastic returns in the past
Fourth quarter was a strong ending to a great year for AFG
Just kind of want to make sure as we think through the combined ratio guidance for next year and what ultimately equates to a very strong ROE, of course
We think our stock is especially attractively valued
Following several years of exceptionally strong returns on investments tied to multifamily housing, which averaged 15% over the past five years, we're seeing the impact of increased supply and the leveling out of rental rates on these investments, which represent about half of our alternative investment portfolio
Longer term, we remain very optimistic regarding the prospects of our investments in multifamily housing as these properties continue to generate strong net operating income and have desirable geographic positioning and high occupancy rates
So very strong performing businesses
We're well positioned to continue to build long-term value for our shareholders in 2024 and beyond
Craig and I are pleased to report these exceptionally strong results for the fourth quarter and full year, and we're proud of our proven track record of long-term value creation
In addition to producing a core operating return on equity of nearly 20% in 2023, net written premiums grew by 8% during the year
I am pleased to report very strong underwriting profitability for the full year with an overall Specialty Property and Casualty combined ratio of 90.3%
We're proud of our consistent record of profitable underwriting results over many years
We're seeing opportunities to grow our Specialty Property and Casualty businesses through increasing exposures, new opportunities, and a continued favorable pricing environment
I think it's important to know that we think our reserve position is very strong
As you'll see on slide 9, our Specialty Property and Casualty businesses reported a strong fourth quarter, a nice finish to a successful year
Specialty Financial group continued to achieve excellent underwriting margins and reported an outstanding 81.3% combined ratio for the fourth quarter of 2023, an improvement of 1.8 points over the prior year period
Businesses in our Specialty Casualty group achieved an exceptionally strong 84.6% calendar year combined ratio overall in the fourth quarter, 3.3 points higher than 81.3% reported in the comparable prior year period
This is our 30th consecutive quarter to report overall renewal rate increases, and we believe we are achieving overall rate renewal rate increases in excess of prospective loss ratio trends to meet or exceed targeted returns
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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So I think that is something that investors need to recognize because of our significant multifamily exposure, which near term is going to hurt these returns
I believe crop was a little below normal
With both measures down about a point from the renewal pricing in the previous quarter
We talked in previous quarters about some adverse development from social inflation in areas like public sector
One thing that I think you need to recognize in this year's plan is an assumption on return on alternatives that is somewhat below the historical level and certainly below what we expect to see on a go forward basis
In the press release, you mentioned lower underwriting profit in ENS
There’re businesses as you said like crop-hail that had a below average year
I think we're blessed today except for a few businesses, almost all of our businesses are meeting the targeted returns
We expect these headwinds to continue into 2024
As with any company that has an ENS business, there can be over time, there can be occasional large loss activity, which we had in various lines of business in different quarters across the year
That is impacting our ability to push rates the way we have in the recent past
Some impact from social inflation and in some quarters some large loss on the casualty side activity
Some of that was just the occasional large losses that could happen in something like ENS
We've seen some adverse development coming out of calendar years 2018 and 2019, less consistent with prior periods
And some businesses, those increases might lead to returns that exceed our targets in other businesses
So the investment income that's sort of netted into that number is about $4 million lower in 2023 compared to 2022 in the same quarter
If we reflect on 2023 a bit in an investor's mind, there was a bit of a [inaudible] from kind of social inflationary adverse development
Carl, you mentioned some timing issues with regards to transportation
So when you look at the things in the fourth quarter of 2023 versus the 2022 quarter that are different, I would say the lower parent company investment income, which is about $4 million, that's probably something that I would go forward and I would consider if we were looking at a run rate
I guess that, sorry if I missed it, did you say that the adverse on ‘18 and ‘19 that you said at the beginning was that, did you say what line posts were in the quarter? Brian Hertzman So most of that, for the year, most of that's coming out in the social and inflation exposed businesses
   

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