Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Fortunately, we are starting to see some positive trends in the macroeconomic environment that we believe are likely to benefit commercial real estate, including the potential for declining short-term interest rates, specifically declining spreads on CMBS and CRECLM.s, particularly during the past six months, reflects strength in capital markets conditions, positive leasing momentum in certain sectors, including industrial and self-storage and continued healthy demand trends for multifamily assets underscore some of the opportunities we see in today's market
I'd say that we've seen supply uptick nationally, I think markets market that's being received differently, largely speaking within our portfolio, we've seen positive progress on the leasing side
Is that the right way to be thinking of these things? Tae-Sik Yoon Yes, it's an excellent observation
So that's certainly what I think areas in our peer set is playing for us that continue to show that it's going to be a great opportunity to partner with the banks and this next evolution of the real estate debt market
And so that is really our goal is to resolve these loans and increase our earnings power and so that we can continue to cover the dividend that we have set
Finally, we have been highly purposeful in positioning our balance sheet over the past few years to provide us with greater flexibility and time to resolve these underperforming loans
So, I think that you're seeing a good reflection throughout this space of deal activity
Ultimately as we get through this cycle, naturally, as we execute on our earnings opportunities, as discussed, we expect we can return to higher levels of profitability that
It's I know it's a slog, but and I think we have better days ahead for ACRE and for the Group as a whole
Our new quarterly dividend of $0.25 per share reflects our go-forward view of our near term quarterly run rate Distributable Earnings, excluding losses, assuming we achieve the earnings enhancements from our contemplated restorations, longer-term, we believe the real estate capabilities we possess at Aries, coupled with our capital liquidity and reserves will enable us to maximize credit outcomes and enhance our earnings from these situations
And as we continue to resolve additional loans, I think we're making good progress on resolving a number of those nonaccrual loans and really in Yes, as we mentioned, kind of setting our dividend at the 25% level for the first quarter of 2024, we did take into account what we believe we can achieve in terms of the server earnings once we were able to successfully resolve some of these loans without getting too specific, I think we are we are targeting to resolve these loans on some of these loans as soon as we can
You guys that as we mentioned, we have worked very hard to delever our balance sheet significantly over the past several years, and that has helped significantly on our on our loan covenants themselves
We continue to further bolster our liquidity and capital position
And we do believe that our earnings power that will go up from the $0.2 that we recognized in 20 in the fourth quarter of 2020, largely because that was impacted by, again the significant increase in nonaccrual loans
With respect to these new problem loans, we do expect to improve our run rate distributable earnings in the near term as we seek to recapture a portion of the lost earnings that we experienced in our fourth quarter
So it's a positive situation but I would not say all of these will be realized in the first half
All of these measures and capabilities have positioned us to work through our underperforming redeploy while balancing the goal of maximizing proceeds of accelerating the timeframe for resolution
We are cautiously optimistic that the increasing level of transaction activity and improving market liquidity concerns to gradually provide more confidence for market participants over time in time as concerns position us to return to a higher level of earnings in the future
I think those are three good examples of how resolving the loans can increase earnings going forward
The majority of these loans are collateralized by multifamily, industrial and self-storage properties with the largest focus on multifamily properties at 34% as a positive indication of our commitment to the properties that contributed more than $150 million of capital, representing about 10% of the $1.6 billion and principal balance of these loans, a portion of this $150 million was used to renew all interest rate caps that expired in 2023 at their prior strike rate credit, an economically equivalent amount after considering additional reserves
So this is typically one of the benefits of the multifamily market is for continued capital markets, participation of Fannie and Freddie, as well as it being a more friendly bank asset as well
So far, we've made some notable progress towards these goals
So yes, in some cases are the, you know, the arm and the benefit that we will see in earnings comes from being able to pay down either in part or full associated liability, some of the nonaccrual loans
So to the extent that we can resolve these loans and get a full or partial repayment of the associated liabilities that would obviously result in higher net income
And I do think to your point, Jamie, there's ample liquidity to comment on the private side alongside existing lenders recapitalizing an asset and bringing to bear improved asset management or property management from there
I think Japan, we've basically, as you know, in the analysis of that of that property, the dialogue with the borrowers dynamic and it is a relatively small asset, however, be so active discussions with that buyer with a rate cap term yet that's really the catalyst for well
Bryan Donohoe I think that the leverage ratio that Pason touched on earlier gives us that flexibility
So I think you're spot on the activity is here, and I think it will continue to progress
We have increased our liquidity and we have done a number of measures
But I'd have to think as we start getting into the middle of this year and there is more of an expectation for cuts in the second half of the year that may make those potential buyers more aggressive because you're creating a more positive sentiment, you know, for the market generally and people are going to be less willing to sell at large discounts
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Cecl reserve distributable earnings for the fourth quarter of 2023 was $10.8 million, or $0.2 per common share, which was adversely impacted by the six additional loans that were placed on nonaccrual in the fourth quarter
As I'm sure you are aware we continue to see higher interest rates, higher rates of inflation as well as certain cultural shifts such as work-from-home trends adversely impacting the operating performance and economic values of commercial real estate
As Bryan mentioned, our GAAP net income was adversely impacted by a $47.5 million increase in our CECL provision or about $0.87 per common share
On the other hand, it's five 35 for silver is causing significant significant and adverse impact on real estate operating performance at values
Bryan Donohoe I think it was slower than expected leasing velocity alongside a near term event of the rig count
Just to follow up on your answer to Doug's question, Green Street estimates, multi-family values are down around 28% from the peak
And that loan also went into default as a result of the borrower not meeting its January interest payments
So your backlog going into the fall, while rates are very disappointing, obviously ITO has already been on
And fortunately, we are not immune to these macroeconomic challenges and our results for 2023 and the fourth quarter are partially a reflection of these conditions
For the fourth quarter, we had a GAAP loss of $0.73 per common share, driven by a $47 million or $0.87 per common share increase in our CECL reserve, most of which is related to loans collateralized by office properties or a residential condominium construction project
But short term, I would tell you also that we continue to see some volatility in the markets and in our portfolio
And unfortunately, that loan remains in default and the January and now February payment has not been made, but that low retention has been on nonaccrual for the past couple of quarters
And but I will also caution that the story isn't fully told you guys
I just think that when you consider the overall loss severity in this space to the lending to the lender community, I think that will be muted relative to if you look at the office sector, for instance
And so we've been very mindful of making sure that we have the right balance sheet behaving in these more challenging market conditions
In addition, for the fourth quarter, we paid six additional loans on nonaccrual status, which impacted both our GAAP and distributable earnings by approximately $0.12 per common share versus what these six loans contributed in the third quarter of 2023
In addition, many properties requiring significant capital expenditures have been impacted by higher labor and material costs
Bryan Donohoe You will recognize the challenges that we face with these new nonaccrual loans and the impact that they had on our financial results for the fourth quarter based on the progress that we are making
For the fourth quarter of 2023, we reported a GAAP net loss of $39.4 million or $0.73 per common share
I think when we think about it structurally, are you still going to be short despite the supply headwinds that have been fairly well publicized? We're still going to be short over the next five years, four or five, 6 million residents in the United States, especially if you look at the macro level of immigration returning right so it was worse in terms of liquidity, be the buyers, the owners of multifamily real estate assets are seeing that short, the short term supply issues are dwarfed by the long-term fundamental shortage, and you're starting to see the performance of the underlying assets reflect that
   

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